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Editor: Terry Eakin, 334 Burns Bay Road, LANE COVE, NSW 2066
Contact E-mail address: tea04055@bigpond.net.au ISSN 1443-5888
Volume 10, No. 8, August 2008

Introduction: ÔÇÿAll Ireland SourcesÔÇÖ is a monthly newsletter distributed free by E-mail to Family History Societies and interested researchers near the end of each month. Distribution by Australia Post each three months (three issues) costs $6.00 annually within Australia. The aim is to bring items of interest regarding Irish record sources to the Australian genealogist.
The editor would appreciate being made aware of records relating to the Irish, particularly those held in Australia or new in the LDS Family History Library. Back copies available free for downloading from www.sag.org.au
Note new email address.

[continued from Volume 10, No. 7, page 27] The Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland:

Elected. Members of the Society of Antiquaries of Ireland (Revised 31st December, 1900):
1899 Darley, Henry Warren. 15, Pembroke-road, Dublin.
1900 Davids, Miss Rosa. Greenhall, High Blantyre, N.B.
1891 Davidson, Rev. Henry W., M.A. Abington Rectory, Murroe, Limerick.
1890 Davy, Rev. Humphry, M.A. Kimmage Lodge, Terenure.
1895 Dawkins, Professor W. Boyd., F.S.A., F.K.S., F.G.S., &c. Woodhurst, Fallowfield, Manchester.
1895 Dawson, Joseph Francis, Inspector. Munster and Leinster Bank, Dame-street, Dublin.
1883 Dawson, Very Rev. Abraham, M.A., Dean of Dromore. Seagoe Rectory, Portadown.
1868 Deady, James P. Hibernian Bank, Navan.
1893 Deane, Mrs. J. William. Longraigue, Foulksmill, Co. Wexford.
1898 de Ferrieres, Frank Rethore, B.A. 11, Willoughby-place, Enniskillen.
1894 Delany, Rt. Rev. John Carthage, Lord Abbot of Mount Melleray, Cappoquin.
1864 De La Poer, Edmond, J.P., D.L. Gurteen, Glensheelan, Clonmel.
1895 De Moleyns, The Hon. Edward A., J.P. Dingle, Co. Derry.
1889 Denny, Francis MacGillycuddy. Denny-street, Tralee.
1884 Denvir, Patrick J. National Bank, Limerick.
1890 DÔÇÖEvelyn, Alexander, M.D. (Dubl.). Ballymena.
1895 Devenish-Meares, Major-General W.L., J.P., D.L. Meares Court, Ballinacargy, Co. Westmeath.
1896 Diamond, Rev. Patrick J. Port Stanley, Falkland Islands.
1899 Dickenson, Col. Wykeham Corry. Earlsfort Mansions, Dublin.
1893 Dickinson, James A. 8, Crosthwaite Park, Kingstown.
1891 Dickson, Rev. William A. Fahan Rectory, Londonderry.
1892 Dillon, Sir John Fox, Bart., J.P., D.L. Lismullen, Navan.
1897 Dixon, Henry, Jun. 5, Cabra-terrace, Dublin.
1889 Dodge, Mrs. Saddle Rock, Great Neck, Long Island, New York, U.S.A.
1896 Doherty, George, J.P. Dromore, Co. Tyrone.
1899 Doherty, Rev. William, C.C. St. ColumbaÔÇÖs Presbytery, Derry.
1890 Donegan, Lieutenant-Colonel James H., J.P. Alexandra-place, Cork.
1887 Donovan, St. John Henry, J.P. Seafield, The Spa, Tralee.
1898 Doran, George Augustus, J.P. University-road, Belfast.
1890 Doran-Falkiner, Rev. T. 4, Marine-terrace, Bray.
1889 Dorey, Matthew. 8, St. AnneÔÇÖs-terrace, Berkeley-road, Dublin.
1891 Dougherty, James B., M.A. Assistant Under-Secretary, Dublin Castle.
1887 Douglas, M.C. Burren-street, Carlow.
1889 Dowd, Rev. James, M.A. 7, Swansea-terrace, Limerick.
1897 Dowling, Jeremiah, sen., M.D. Nelson-street, Tipperary.
1894 Downes, Thomas. Norton, Skibbereen.
1899 Doyle, Edward. Charleville Lodge, Cabra, Dublin.
1896 Doyle, Rev. Luke, P.P. St. MaryÔÇÖs, Tagoat, Wexford.
1897 Doyle, M.J. N.S., Windgap, Co. Kilkenny.
1870 Doyne, Charles Mervyn, M.A. (Cantab.), J.P., D.L. Wells, Gorey.
1898 Doyne, James, J.P. Earl-street, Mullingar.
1898 Dreaper, Richard H., Physician and Surgeon. Mossley, near Manchester.
1894 Drew, Lady. Gortnadrew, Alma-road, Monkstown, Co. Dublin.
1893 Drought, Rev. Anthony, M.A. Kilmessan Rectory, Navan.
1890 Dugan, Charles Winston, M.A. Oxmantown Mall, Parsonstown.
1885 Duke, Robert Alexander, J.P., D.L. Newpark, Ballymote.
1891 Duncan, George. 82, Ranelagh-road, Dublin.
1900 Duncan, Rev. George, B.A. The Manse, Ballycairn, Lisburn, Co. Down.
1899 Duncan, James Dalrymple, F.S.A., F.S.A. (Scot.). Meiklewood, Stirling, N.B.
1893 Dunn, Michael J., B.A., Barrister-at-Law. 42, Upper Mount-street, Dublin.
1892 Dunn, Valentine. 3, Raglan-road, Dublin.

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1900 Dunne, Rev. E., C.C. Presbytery, Rathmines.
1894 Dunne, Francis Plunkett, J.P. Balivor, Banagher.
1893 Dunne, Robert H. Plunkett, J.P. Brittas, Clonaslie, QueenÔÇÖs Co.
1872 Durham, Dean and Chapter of, per C. Rowlandson. The College, Durham.
1890 Dwan, Rev. John J., Adm. The Presbytery, Thurles.
1882 Egan, Patrick M., J.P. High-street, Kilkenny.
1887 Elcock, Charles., Curator. Museum, Royal-avenue, Belfast.
1890 Elliott, Rev. Anthony L., M.A. Killiney Glebe, Co. Dublin.
1892 Elliott, Charles. 223, Amhurst-road, Stoke-Newington, London, N.E.
1894 Ennis, Edward H., Barrister-at-Law. 41, Fitzwilliam-place3, Dublin.
1895 Ennis, Michael Andrew, J.P. Ardruadh, Wexford.
1896 Entwistle, Peter. Free Public Museum, Liverpool.
1884 Erne, Right Hon. The Countess of, care of Rev. J. H. Steele, Crom Castle, Belturbet.
1890 Esmonde, Sir Thomas Henry Grattan, Bart., M.P. Ballynastragh, Gorey.
1899 Evans, Mrs. 87, Eccleston-square, London. S.W.; Moville, Co. Donegal.
1894 Everard, Rev. John, C.C. SS. Peter and Paul, Clonmel.
1893 Everard, Lieut.-Col. Nugent Talbot, J.P., D.L. Randlestown, Navan.
1890 Fahey, Very Rev. Jerome, P.P., V.G. St. ColmanÔÇÖs, Gort.
1880 Fahy, Rev. John G. Rectory, Waterville, Co. Kerry.
1895 Fair, Richard B. Rosetta House, Rosetta Park, Belfast.
1889 Fairholme, Mrs. 19, Waterloo-road, Dublin.
1896 Falkiner, C. Litton, M.A., M.R.I.A., Barrister-at-Law. 9, Upper Merrion-street, Dublin.
1888 Falkiner, Rev. William F.T., M.A., M.R.I.A. Killucan Rectory, Co. Westmeath.
1893 Fallon, Owen, D.I.R.I.C. Ardara, Co. Donegal.
1897 Faren, William. Mount Charles, Belfast.
1891 Fawcett, George. Monte Video, Roscrea.
1892 Fegan, William John, Solicitor. Market Square, Cavan.
1893 Fennell, William J., M.R.I.A.I. Wellington-place, Belfast.
1887 Fennessy, Edward. Ardscradawn House, Kilkenny.
1896 Fenton, Mrs. St. PeterÔÇÖs Vicarage, 90, Westbourne-road, Birkenhead.
1898 Fenton, Rev. Charles E. OÔÇÖConnor, M.A. Parish Church Vicarage, Sheffield.
1898 Fenton, Rev. Cornelius OÔÇÖConnor, M.A. 105, Botanic-road, Liverpool.
1898 Fenton, Rev. S. L. OÔÇÖConnor, M.A., Vicar of St. GeorgeÔÇÖs. Newcastle, Staffordshire.
1898 Fetherstonhaugh, Albany, B.A., Solicitor. 17, Eccles-street, Dublin.
1897 Field, Williaqm, M.P. Blackrock, Co. Dublin.
1897 Field, Miss. 6, Main-street, Blackrock, Co. Dublin.
1891 Fielding, Patrick J.D., F.C.S. 8, St. JosephÔÇÖs-place, Cork.
1894 Fisher, Rev. John Whyte, M.A., Canon. The Rectory, Mountrath.
1890 Fitz Gibbon, Gerald, M.Inst.C.E. Cawood, Apperley Bridge, Leeds.
1892 Fitz Patrick, P., D.I.N.S. Rathkeale.
1898 Fitz Patrick, S. A. O. Glenpool, Terenure.
1899 Fitz Simon, D. OÔÇÖConnell. Moreen, Dundrum.
1868 Fitzsimons, John Bingham, M.D. 14, St. Owen-street, Hereford.
1896 Flanagan, James. Model School, Inchicore, Dublin.
1891 Fleming, Hervey de Montmorency, J.P. Barraghcore, Goresbridge.
1895 Fleming, James, Jun. Kilmory, Skelmorlie, Scotland.
1899 Fleming, Miss H. S. G. Pallisade House, Omagh.
1889 Fleming, Very Rev. Horace Townsend, M.A. The Deanery, Cloyne.
1893 Flood, Rev. James. 52, Sterling-place, Brooklyn, New York, U.S.A.
1899 Flood, William H. Grattan. Enniscorthy.
1894 Flynn, Very Rev. Patrick F., P.P. St. AnneÔÇÖs Presbytery, Waterford.
1884 Fogerty, Robert, C.E., Architect. Limerick.
1896 Foley, J. M. Galwey., C.I., R.I.C. Ennis.
1877 Forster, Sir Robert, Bart., D.L. 63, Fitzwilliam-square, Dublin.
1893 Fortescue, Hon. Dudley F., J.P., D.L. 9, Hertford-street, Mayfair, London, W.
1891 Foster, Rev. Frederick, M.A. Ballymacelligott Glebe, Tralee.
1888 Franklin, Frederick, F.R.I.A.I. Westbourne House, Terenure.
1899 Fraser, William. Downshire-road, Newry.
1897 Frazer, Henry. Lambeg N.S., Lisburn.
1897 Frewen, William, Solicitor. Nelson-street, Tipperary.
1889 Frizelle, Joseph. Sligo.
1898 Fry, Matthew W. J., M.A.,, F.T.C. Trinity College, Dublin.
1891 Furlong, Nicholas, L.R.C.P.I., L.R.C.S.I., M.R.I.A. Lymington, Enniscorthy.
1890 Gallagher, Edward, J.P. Strabane.
1891 Gallagher, William, Solicitor.English-street, Armagh.
1894 Gamble, Major G. F. Mount Jerome, HaroldÔÇÖs-cross, Dublin.
1896 Galt-Gamble, T. E., D. I., R.I.C. Lurgan, Co. Armagh.
1890 Geoghegan, Michael. P. W. Hotel, Athlone.

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1891 Geoghegan, Thomas F. 2, Essex-quay, Dublin.
1894 Geoghegan, William P. Rockfield, Blackrock.
1890 George, William E. Downside, Stoke Bishop, Clifton.
1895 Gerish, W. Blythe. Ivy Lodge, BishopÔÇÖs Stortford, Herts.
1893 Gerrard, Rev. William J. The Rectory, Rathangan, Co. Kildare.
1899 Gibson, Henry, J.P. Ardnardeen, Clontarf.
1897 Gibson, Rev. Thomas B., M.A. The Rectory, Ferns.
1892 Gilfoyle, Anthony Thomas, M.A., J.P., D.L. Carrowcullen House, Skreen, Co. Sligo.
1895 Gill, Michael J., B.A. Roebuck House, Clonskeagh.
1892 Gill, R. P., A.M.Inst. C.E. Fattheen, Nenagh.
1900 Gillespie, Ed. Acheson. Mount Hulings, Claremount-road, Sandymount.
1887 Gillespie, James, Surgeon. The Diamond, Clones.
1891 Gleeson, Gerald W. M. Gurthalougha, Borrisokane.
1894 Gleeson, Paul. Kilcolman, Glenageary, Co. Dublin.
1897 Gleeson, Michael, Crown Solicitor. Nenagh.
1885 Glenny, James Swanzy, J.P. Altnaveigh House, Newry.
1899 Gloster, Arthur B., B.A. Education Office, Marlborough-street, Dublin.
1898 Glover, Edward, M.Inst. C.E., President, Inst. C.E.I. 19, Prince Patrick-terrace, North Circular-road, Dublin.
1891 Glynn, Thomas. Meelick Villa, 87, Aden Grove, Clissold Park, London, N.
1897 Glynn, William, J.P. Kilrush.
1897 Godden, George. Phoenix Park, Dublin.
1890 Goff, Rev. Edward, B.A. Kentstown Rectory, Navan.
1897 Golsdsmith, Rev. E.J., M.A. 1, De Vesci-place, Monkstown.
1894 Goodwin, Singleton, B.A., M.Inst. C.E. Tralee.
1899 Gordon, R. A. Ulster Bank, Ballymote.
1897 Gore, John. 52, Rutland-square, Dublin.
1900 Gore, Mrs. Derrymore, OÔÇÖCallaghanÔÇÖs Mills, Co. Clare.
1899 Gorman, James. General Valuation Office, Ely-place, Dublin.
1852 Gorman, Venerable Wm. Chas., M.A., Archdeacon of Ossory. Rectory, Thomastown, Co. Kilkenny.
1891 Gosselin, Rev. J. H. Prescott, B.A. Muff Parsonage, Londonderry.
1891 Gough, Joseph. 88, Grosvenor-square, Rathmines.
1890 Grant, Colonel George Fox, J.P. Hilton, Mullinahone.
1894 Gray, Robert, F.R.C.P.I., J.P. 4, Charlemont-place, Armagh.
1896 Graydon, Thomas W., M.D. La Fayette Circle, Clifton, Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.
1897 Greaves, Miss. 12, Rathgar-road, Dublin.
1900 Green, T. Geo. H., M.R.I.A. Lisnagar, Temple Gardens, Palmerston Park, Dublin.
1895 Greene, Mrs. J. Monte Vista, Ferns.
1896 Greene, Mrs. T. Millbrook, Mageney.
1892 Greene, Thomas, LL.D., J.P. Millbrook, Mageney.
1897 Greer, Thomas MacGregor, Solicitor. Ballymoney.
1891 Grierson, Rev. Frederick J., B.A. St. BrideÔÇÖs, Oldcastle, Co. Meath.
1899 Griffith, John E., F.L.S., F.R.A.S. Bryn Dynas, Bangor, N. Wales.
1899 Griffith, Miss Lucy E. Glynmalden, Dolgelly, N. Wales; Arianfryn, Barmouth.
1885 Grubb, J. Ernest. Carrick-on-Suir.
1890 Guilbride, Francis, J.P. Newtownbarry.
1895 Guinness, Howard R. Chesterfield, Blackrock.
1899 Hackett, Rev. Frederick John, M.A. Kildollagh Rectory, Coleraine.
1899 Hackett, T. Kirkwood. General Valuation Office, Ely-place, Dublin.
1891 Haddon, Alfred Cort, M.A., F.R.S., F.Z.S. Inisfail, HillÔÇÖs-road, Cambridge.
1892 Hade, Arthur, C.E. Carlow.
1895 Hales, Mrs. A. Belvedere, Crystal Palace Park, Sydenham, S.E.
1897 Hall, Rev. Alexander, B.A. Drogheda.
1899 Hall, Ernest Frederick. The Lodge, Westport.
[to be continued in Volume 10, No. 9, September 2008].

1851 Census Fragments: Some townlands survive for Drumkeeran civil parish in County Fermanagh including Clonee townland. The 1851 census recorded name, age, occupation, relationship to the head of the household, year of marriage, literacy, family members absent on census night, members of the household who died between the 1841 and 1851 census.

The above Drumkeeran 1851 census fragments on film No. 100858 will be transcribed when the County Antrim films are proofread and completed. These are 597107-597113 and 597143-59715, a total of 18 films for County Antrim.

OLD AGE PENSION CLAIMS: An Update from Janice Brooks, the transcriber and editor: Janice writes:
OLD AGE PENSION (OAP) CLAIMS OF IRELAND.

Progress! No one would be more pleased than I, to have a definite completion date. Sometimes it seems more elusive than ever, however it is getting closer. The Old Age Pension Act was approved in 1908. To prove oneÔÇÖs age (70 or more) was difficult for many Irish due to the late start of Civil Registration in Ireland. In the hope of proving oneÔÇÖs age, claimants were able to give details of where they lived at the time of the 1841 or 1851

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census. This information was then checked against the actual census records, with the results often giving the relative information on entire households.

The material from which I have worked, are those claim forms which were sent to the census office and eventually found there way to the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) in Belfast. There are other OAP Claims, these are already indexed and are at the National Archives in Dublin. The PRONI claims consist of the claims lodged at stations within Northern Ireland. Those in Dublin relate to claims lodged in the Republic of Eire. Because many people moved from one to the other, there are some papers relating to both north and south in both Belfast and Dublin. The PRONI Claims are held in 37 volumes, totalling over 10,000 pages and are filmed on 24 LDS microfilms.

My intention when I started this project many years ago, was to publish a name index so researchers could access this wonderful information themselves. I began by dividing the work into 4 manageable parts with 6 microfilms in each part. After publication of Parts 1 & 2, for many reasons, including enormous technological changes, and although I had completed Parts 3 and 4, I withheld publication because I had the chance to spend enough time at PRONI to correct my transcription errors and add that most vital information which wasconcealed in the filmed records.

Currently I am adding that corrected and additional information to the computer database and have just a little more than one volume to do. Apart from that there are a few small tasks IÔÇÖve put off until last. So, yes, I think I am getting closer to that long looked forward to day, when I can say, ÔÇ£FINISHEDÔÇØ I have been aiming for publication in September at the AFHS Annual State Conference being held in Dubbo in September. I am still working towards this, although recent events have caused a delay I may not be able to overcome in time.

Briefly, about the claims.
At the least, a claim may give as little as:-

Claimant: Mary DONAGHY
Father: Joseph DONAGHY
Mother: Mary
In 51, at Ballyquin townland, parish Balteagh, Londonderry Co.
Census Office reply: Not found.

On the other hand, and more generally :

Claimant: Mary KELLY (nee DONAGHY),
age 70 at date of claim (17 Feb 1913), claim office Limavady
Father: Joseph DONAGHY
Mother: Nancy CUNNINGHAM
In 41 at Lislane townland, parish Drumachose, Londonderry Co.
or, in 51 at Gulladoo townland, parish Moville Lower, Donegal Co.

Census Office Reply:Family found in 51, at Gulladoo (sheet 8), parents married 1838, claimant age 8 yrs, other children in family: - Daniel 12, Joseph 6, Ann 4, a dau Mary died 1842 aged 2

The general claims may yield other persons in the household, (e.g. grandparents) marriage dates, household deaths and absentees. Church records, military papers, property & valuations are among the various papers. As much information as practically possible is included in the transcription. Nothing beats seeing the record yourself, on the other hand some information will not be recognised without the added benefit of having seen so
many of the records.

The pension claims at PRONI are somewhere between an interview with an elderly ancestor now deceased, and an official record. Much can be gleaned from family movement and comments from officials. There is also plenty of room for inaccuracies, some papers perfectly written, then numerous pages crowded with information, perhaps over 100 names, overwritten with lines & notes in pencil and so on. Earliest persons mentioned are a
few born in the 1740ÔÇÖs. The latest information is around May 1922. The record will be searchable by personal or place name. (Note, the above claims are fictitious, an example only.) Thank you Janice: Note: Janice is only working on the PRONI records and not those in the National Archives of Ireland, sorry for my error. Terry E.

Articles, suggestions and information for this newsletter are welcome and may be E-mailed to: tea04055@bigpond.net.au or posted to Terry Eakin, 334 Burns Bay Road, Lane Cove NSW AUSTRALIA 2066

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